Forestry

Division of Forestry Strategic Direction

Statewide Forest Strategy 2010

Statewide Forest Assessment 2010

Forest Sustainability Framework

Statewide Forest Plan 2004

E1. Trend: Warming of the earth may affect
forest composition, structure and function.


Comment #: 1
Not a scientific fact


Comment #: 2
Don't agree with premise - it is all speculation. Scientific community split on the issue of whether or not global warming exists. Don't think it should be addressed until there is more certainty.


Comment #: 3
It's already happening and birch are dying for lack of water, aspen are dying too, because of monoculture and dry weather. Is the logging management practice compatible with the warming trend tree composition?


Comment #: 4
I kind of like global warming.


Comment #: 5
I'm not totally sold on "global warming" it's causes or affects


Comment #: 6
Not much we can do about it except plan to deal with the result.


Comment #: 7
Global warming is not definite. Yes, there has been a warming trend over the last 2 decades, but we could go into a cooling trend again.


Comment #: 8
Not true ("becoming increasingly clear that the earth is warming")


Comment #: 9
I blame this on politics which allow uncontrolled polution


Comment #: 10
a global issue?


Comment #: 11
In my 70 years I've been natures variations and in the twenties and thirties and accepted this as natural/Gods decision


Comment #: 12
Snowmobile and atv exhaust fumes smell awful. Please support measures to decrease their pollution capabilities. Better yet, increase your support for activities, which don't pollute and which help to maintain a healthy body such as bicycling, hiking and cross-country skiing. You care about healthy trees why not healthy citizens?


Comment #: 13
We don't know enough about it.


Comment #: 14
There is nothing we can do about global warming. If it wasn't for global warming we would still be in the ICE AGE.


Comment #: 15
This is all part of a longterm cycle. Measurement techniques have not seen complete cycle yet.


Comment #: 16
At this time we need further research so the plan should probably advocate research rather than something more drastic.


Comment #: 17
Too speculative to make meaningful conclusions from this short-term warming.


Comment #: 18
It is probably impossible to make any significant changes in long term effects of world wide weather changes


Comment #: 19
Debateable!


Comment #: 20
Not much we can do locally.


Comment #: 21
BS


Comment #: 22
This issue is beyond the capabilities of forest planning at present.


Comment #: 23
not enough info


Comment #: 24
Most recent article in paper says that scientests agree that GLOBAL WARMING is not occuring even though the politicians say it is


Comment #: 25
the experts disagree


Comment #: 26
?


Comment #: 27
This is a debatable topic that requires more careful study and less dire predictions by ssegements of the scientific community using "scare" tactics.


Comment #: 28
NASA satellites have been recording atmosphere temperatures since 1979 and this most accurate data indicate a cooling trend of .05 degrees C per decade since then.


Comment #: 29
This is an entirely separate subject area - perhaps over the next decade a "plan" review would be appropriate


Comment #: 30
Are we going to continue the eco wacko's run everything?


Comment #: 31
I will end here - This is not a scientific survey - it is bsed on innuendos and assumptions and seems to me that it leans very heavy towards preservation.


Comment #: 32
It's time to STOP global NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.


Comment #: 33
I don't think there is enough evidence to conclude this is more than a cycle


Comment #: 34
It is not clear - It is a theory with numerous reputable scientists not in agreement.


Comment #: 35
My gut feeling is that most of these so-called experts are full of it. If you get my drift!


Comment #: 36
Global warming is a mith - natual event


Comment #: 37
Is this all bad?


Comment #: 38
Has not the earth surface bot increased in tempature as well as decreased? How long term is the trend or is this temporary?


Comment #: 39
Wheres the scientific long range proof? Answer - There is none.


Comment #: 40
You mean the forests would cease to be a carbon sink for fossil-fueled recreation? No - strike that - fossil-fueled recreation is not a natural system - it is a subsidized nonsustainable system.


Comment #: 41
Still in the speculation phase. Remember in the 70's we were headed for an "ice age"?


Comment #: 42
Depends upon how long term the forest plan is - probably wouldn't affect planning much, if any, over next decade or more.


Comment #: 43
What can you do specifically realtive to forest mgmt?


Comment #: 44
Maintain large blocks of forest, such that natural preocesses and disturbance regimes can function.


Comment #: 45
There is not doubt that our forests will change as the result fo any substantial warming. We have also started the tilt toward the next ice age - 6 or 8 or 10 thousand years away.


Comment #: 46
Our forests are continually changing.


Comment #: 47
Wisconsin's forests developed during and after the ice ages - will one or two degrees f really affect them much?


Comment #: 48
I remember the 30's they were hot - If this time we can only watch


Comment #: 49
Stick to what we know


Comment #: 50
Need to rethink forests on earth's resperator (lungs) not recreational sites


Comment #: 51
These are primarily socological problems that are being ignored and can't be resolved with forestry plans


Comment #: 52
There is no proof of global warming our records don't don't go back far enough. That's mostly B.S. That's the Son of Bich (Liberals).


Comment #: 53
This is certainly one of the most important issues facing us today


Comment #: 54
What about the deforestation in So. America?


Comment #: 55
Baloney! I don't believe it. Contact all scientests before stating that. Activists have loud harsh voices.


Comment #: 56
10,000 years ago WI was largely covered by ice. Warming is not something that just started in the last 100 years.


Comment #: 57
Money, greed, stupidity, our life style - everybody wants the good life. How long can the WHOLE world achieve a sustain this assault on our resources? What are we going to leave for our grandchildren or beyond. I this a government problem or to be left to each person?


Comment #: 58
Plant more trees


Comment #: 59
WI forest management has helped slow the global warming. Forest product industries have been fairly clean also.


Comment #: 60
So be it - let change occur


Comment #: 61
We can't know the effect so we can't know the cure


Comment #: 62
Too speculative to merit inclusion.


Comment #: 63
This is not only a state issue but a worldwide issue.


Comment #: 64
This global warning is some Mafia Ploy to get more controll over the people. I'm 74 years old look back over in awhile.


Comment #: 65
I feel it may not be as clear as we think. We should be concerned but I do not think a forester can control how many cars are made. This is very political.


Comment #: 66
Global warming is not a scientific fact.


Comment #: 67
(speculate) and (could) - operative words here.


Comment #: 68
First, we must substantiate that global warming is happening. I don't think that has been done.


Comment #: 69
We have to reduce our emmision of carbon. Americans have to start feeling some pain.


Comment #: 70
This whole thing is very poor science. Long term trends (i.e., 100 years or more) have not been measured. There are too many variables, besides.


Comment #: 71
I haven't scientific data on this.


Comment #: 72
We should keep hammering away at 'the big picture'.


Comment #: 73
It's already happening all the way across the country - but can't forsee when and how drastic, so wait and see - can't do much about it anyway.


Comment #: 74
Gov't scare tactic. There is no real evidence that there is a problem. More scientists disagree than agree that there is a problem.


Comment #: 75
Watch and monitor over time.


Comment #: 76
This is a long-term effect. It will have very little, if any, impact on planning period.


Comment #: 77
Emphasis that this is a theory and this may be just a natural cycle of the earth.


Comment #: 78
I wouldn't spend a great deal of time on a forest plan dealing with speculation.


Comment #: 79
Too many automobiles on the roads are the greatest problem. We need to reduce driving miles.


Comment #: 80
Keep good data. Follow research.


Comment #: 81
The extent of warming and its effects are still debatable. More research needs to be done before definitive conclusions are reached.


Comment #: 82
This is very theoretical. Identify it but focus on more immediate and controllable activities.


Comment #: 83
We do not know.


Comment #: 84
We don't know for sure that long-term global warming is occurring. Don't over react!


Comment #: 85
Not enough information available at this time - continue to monitor.


Comment #: 86
My family and I are commercial maple syrup producers. We tap around 3,000 trees each spring. Years back we would always tap around mid-March and end around mid-April. The last four years we were making syrup in February and finished by April. Something is changing.


Comment #: 87
climatic cycle only, not a man made thing


Comment #: 88
This is all still speculation. It has no place in our decision making until it is scientifically proven.


Comment #: 89
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Comment #: 90
Not enough years have been records kept.


Comment #: 91
Global warming is still speculative.


Comment #: 92
Global warming may be the most serious issue facing humans and everything should be done to stop it. This is one of the things I have in mind in my other comments.


Comment #: 93
When all scientists agree, that there is global warming then I will believe it.


Comment #: 94
I didn't see any global warming the winter


Comment #: 95
A huge problem for WI forest compostion.


Comment #: 96
There are other more immediate priorities.


Comment #: 97
When man can demonstrate total workable system knowledgeable and fossel burning ahs been totally eliminated come back and see me about forest composition structure and function.


Comment #: 98
90% of the people in Wisconsin are not willing to adjust life style or devote any resources to this issue - remember - "wealth at any cost"


Comment #: 99
This is a worldwide issue, I hope the people of the world can ban together to address this.


Comment #: 100
Recent reports reveal the ozone holes are closing - like so many things, this may be an unneeded study.


Comment #: 101
I don't think global warming is a trend that Wis. Can fix in a forest plan.


Comment #: 102
Way too early to tell or plan for.


Comment #: 103
The earth IS warming. NOBODY knows if this will be good or bad. I live in the UP I figure it will be GOOD.


Comment #: 104
I believe global warming is hogwash. It is a term the environmental community uses to scare the general public into not cutting trees.


Comment #: 105
This trend justifies sustaining the forests.


Comment #: 106
Warming? Yes! For now we do not know cause or if this is a long term trend of if we could affect result


Comment #: 107
I'm not convinced global warming is a significant as the press would have us believe


Comment #: 108
I have listened to this for 70 years we have hot summers and cold winter some years different then others


Comment #: 109
Lets plant more trees and consume less fossil fuel by discouraging rural development.


Comment #: 110
This is somewhat in the distant future!


Comment #: 111
Info is helpful.


Comment #: 112
A theory not yet proven or accepted.


Comment #: 113
I think this is purce unadulterated B.S.


Comment #: 114
I can't agree with this as it was 20 degrees here at home last nite.


Comment #: 115
I do nto agree that there is evidence of global warming. With farmers encourage to grow trees for harvest we may be able to revers the trend.


Comment #: 116
This theory is unproven.


Comment #: 117
We should be cautious about emission, but I think "global warming" is being overplayed - I think history will show that the earth has always managed to recover.


Comment #: 118
This is speculative and besides what could you do about it in the context of a statewide forest plan except recommend actions to increase growth through intense management which the enviro's don't want.


Comment #: 119
(12-7-00) 10 degrees where the hell is the global warming.


Comment #: 120
The earth has always been changing example (ice age) and will change no matter what.


Comment #: 121
Though long term warming MAY be occurring and if it is there will be effects there are many more immediate concerns that we can affect.


Comment #: 122
These changes will be on such a slow basis they will not have an affect. If they do have an affect it will be out of our control. Let's face it humans do not have control of natural experiences.


Comment #: 123
Sequester carbon by planting abandoned farm fields.


Comment #: 124
The real planning should not be so much with forests, but with what we humans/population causes to happen.


Comment #: 125
Who said? The people that have a stake in it!!The data we have is very recent in compare to earth history.


Comment #: 126
Glad you have info on this section, global issues are very important to consider. Thanks!


Comment #: 127
Depends on the "lifetime" of this plan. A very long term issue, but insignificant in the near term.


Comment #: 128
No real proof time periods studied are too short.


Comment #: 129
Yes (underlined "earth is warming")


Comment #: 130
this issue should be a national one and not included (just referenced) in a state plan.


Comment #: 131
Who really knows!! We have only been in this country for 224 years...what have been the global trends over a million years!!!!!!!


Comment #: 132
This is institutional hand wringing. Let's not sound the alarms just yet.


Comment #: 133
This is institutional hand wringing. Let's not sound the alarms just yet.


Comment #: 134
I'm not sure that it is "increasingly clear" there is much proof.


Comment #: 135
I don't think that the forest communities will be able to change properly. Our management activities don't take global warming into account.


Comment #: 136
Our records are so short-lived that no factual comparisons can be made to substantiate this rumor.


Comment #: 137
Not enough specifics available on the effects to plan for global warming in any meaningful way.


Comment #: 138
Our mean annual temperature is slowly increasing each yaer.


Comment #: 139
This is the trend now but what will the trend be in 100 years? Global Cooling?


Comment #: 140
With a December that is shaping up to be much colder than normal, how do we say that the earth is warming? I think long term observation is needed before passing judgement. Certainly fluctuations occur, but what did they say back in the 30's when we had the dust bowls? The earth was definitely warming then.


Comment #: 141
This is speculative at best. Don't muck things up by getting into this.


Comment #: 142
This is another topic deserving discussion, but doubt the state plan could do much for action. A discussion of the potential impacts is warranted, and recommendations on solutions that could help curtail global warming might be warranted.


Comment #: 143
Global warming is only a theory. There is not enough evidence at this time to base policy on the models that show a warming trend.


Comment #: 144
Pressure should continue to be put on County, State, federally and internationally for the reduction of green house gasses, sustainable forest management and resource conservation and recycling. We need to act "locally" and globally.


Comment #: 145
Obviously, this could be a very large issue. As cold as this winter has started out, however, I am wondering if we aren't heading into the next ice age!


Comment #: 146
It may be more practical to infuse the global perspectives into the appropriate individual issues and address some regional issues instead.


Comment #: 147
pretty obvious isn't it ?


Comment #: 148
pretty obvious isn't it ?


Comment #: 149
Who says the earth is warming? Is this the same earth warming that occured in the 1930's? If you can prove beyond a dought, great. I think, if this were true, the media would of had a field day with this subject. you know what they say about a lie: "If you say its true long enough........


Comment #: 150
There is not enough good science on this topic. You need to steer clear of this topic, until it is real, and proven.

There is belief that volcanos, geo thermo, and forrest fires create more global warming, than people ever could.


Comment #: 151
But I dont't see how there is much the State can do in isolation.


Comment #: 152
A big issue and will become increasingly so.


Comment #: 153
I disagree with your statment that the earth warming, there is no way of knowing what long term weather patterns are


Comment #: 154
Be prepared to plant alternative trees in some areas.


Comment #: 155
who knows what will happen due to global warming, until we know, what can be done??


Comment #: 156
What can we do about this in Wisconsin?


Comment #: 157
What can we do about this in Wisconsin?


Comment #: 158
May be the issue in this millenium.


Comment #: 159
I think we don't know enough about this to make concrete speculations. How do we know this warming trend is not just some long term trend like succession?


Comment #: 160
I believe there is no real proof to this "global warming" theory.

It has been shown through ice cores from the artic or antartic, that there has been substantial changes in temperature in the past.


Comment #: 161
The pine we plant this decade may reach maturity before the climate ia too warm for them.


Comment #: 162
IF THIS IS IN FACT TRUE, the plan is for 6-10 years and should be addressed at a later date.


Comment #: 163
Again, forecasting efforts shoul be pursued so as to establish potential nmanagement strategies that may be needed as a result of these issues.


Comment #: 164
This should be a reason to expand the forest canopy to re balance the CO2 and O2.


Comment #: 165
Let nature take it's course with as little impact from humans as is reasonable.


Comment #: 166
Not in this study.


Comment #: 167
I'm not sure that it has been actually proved that the earth is warming. The warming that we are seeing now may be nothing more than the natural global weather cycle.


Comment #: 168
Wisconsin has been warming since the Ice Age. Viking farmers in Greenland used to sow wheat and burned firewood gathered from forests. Today trees nor wheat grow in Greenland. This all means that the world was once a warmer place and naturally goes through cycles. We need to wait for REAL scientific evidence before we institute programs and spend money on what is otherwise a natural global occurance. Besides, wouldn't a longer growing season be good for Wisconsin farmers??


Comment #: 169
Unless the DNR has access to silvicultural tools to mitigate any effects, this is a non-issue. Let's worry about the far more fundamental problems we have with forest management (e.g., high-grading, development,etc.).


Comment #: 170
Warming would cause species to migrate and eventually not find a suitable climate or conditions and therefore become extinct.


Comment #: 171
What, exactly, can you do as forest

managers? If we want to maintain the climate

or it can be shown that we are on our way

to a "planet Venus-like condition," I suppose

manipulating the forest age strata can be important.

Otherwise, temporately adapated species will, in fact,

become dominant whether we like it or not!


Comment #: 172
Global warming is occurring and truly scary. It is also scary that our new President and Vice President both are tied to the oil industry and will likely make emissions problems worse. We must maintain north-south movement corridors for all native species. As climate changes, they will need to move just as they did during the "recent" periods of glaciation. They may need to move much, much faster though. Mammals and birds may survive, but trees may not be able to "migrate" fast enough.


Comment #: 173
Global warming is occurring and truly scary. It is also scary that our new President and Vice President both are tied to the oil industry and will likely make emissions problems worse. We must maintain north-south movement corridors for all native species. As climate changes, they will need to move just as they did during the "recent" periods of glaciation. They may need to move much, much faster though. Mammals and birds may survive, but trees may not be able to "migrate" fast enough.


Comment #: 174
Need good data to prove.


Comment #: 175
I would propose focusing on issues that can be addressed adequately. Tackling the whole global warming issue may be too much to bite off (even though I agree it's a problem).


Comment #: 176
Evidence remains debatable. This is a very long term problem (if a problem). Devote resources where there will be a more immediate payoff.


Comment #: 177
www.me3.org had some interesting info on MN's look at the impact of warming on its conifers.


Comment #: 178
Global warming is a horrific problem, even if our new President-elect and his cabinet wish to ignore it. As former oil men, they naturally want to drill, sell, and burn fossil fuels instead of leave them underground. Arguably our most harmful and destructive societal "addiction" is to our fossil fuel "drugs." Unless we kick this habit, we're all in for a rougher climatic ride. If present trends continue, maybe the DNR should anticipate adding palms and magnolias to Wisconsin's list of native tree species.


Comment #: 179
I would acknowledge this in the plan, but, substantively, it may be too speculative to do much with it.


Comment #: 180
It is not clear that the earth is warming!


Comment #: 181
I think global warming is a big problem all around the world not just in the forests. I think this issue should be addressed so we can come up with solutions and prevent any more major damage.


Comment #: 182
At this point, maybe the only way we can plan for this is to reprint this statement in the statewide forest plan.


Comment #: 183
Better to be prepared than surprised.


Comment #: 184
Better to be prepared than surprised.


Comment #: 185
I don't think it is clear the earth is warming...a hundred years is nothing over the life of the earth.


Comment #: 186
Global Warming is a hoax


Comment #: 187
#7


Comment #: 188
Identify pockets of natural systems that will last the longest as global warming increases. Then these pockets can be used to revitalize the original systems should we be successful as a planet in reducing the warming later.


Comment #: 189
This process will definitely affect our forests however the studies are incomplete and appropriate actions not clearly defined.


Comment #: 190
I've read articles that have arguments both ways. Let the scientists battle this one.


Comment #: 191
Global warming is very subjective and there is little factual information to make decisions. It is unforturate that a group of "greens" have so much power.


Comment #: 192
speculation on how to address this should be limited, and feasibilty proven, before attempting a master plan.


Comment #: 193
Global warming has never been proven.


Comment #: 194
also other air pollutants such as ozone and nitrogen.


Comment #: 195
people need to shown how forest ecology will be altered.

We need them to know that global warming will not just make their lives more comfortable because of warmer weather etc.


Last Revised: Monday July 30 2007