Division of Forestry Strategic Direction
Statewide Forest Strategy 2010
Statewide Forest Assessment 2010
Forest Sustainability Framework
Statewide Forest Plan 2004
B3. Trend: Demand for forest-based recreation
and associated services is increasing.
Comment #: 1
As long as it does not interfere with the proper forest management.
Comment #: 2
Wetlands, marshes, lakes, rivers, flood plains etc all need to be enacted to leaves wild area wild, and lodging etc confined to existing towns.
Comment #: 3
Let it be - this should not be part of your domain!
Comment #: 4
Forest should remain forests! Services should either remain exterior (hopefully in surrounding towns) or the forest should be reclassified as a park.
Comment #: 5
Just don't force those enrolled in M.F.L. to accept all kinds of public recreation.
Comment #: 6
This is the best use of forests. I have long like camping in campgrounds in Nat'l forests, as on 1982 drive to Alaska, and here in Wisconsin.
Comment #: 7
We don't need more development we do need more (?) areas.
Comment #: 8
Rec. should be second to ecology.
Comment #: 9
Limit population growth sprawl in SE WI
Comment #: 10
This is a result of markets and free enterprise - to include this in a plan could be interpreted as government control.
Comment #: 11
I don't think we need lodging, restaurants and stores in the forest. It would no longer be a wild area. Forests, at least some need to be preserved in a wild state.
Comment #: 12
Private sector will drive this
Comment #: 13
The forest has a ways to go before there's no peace and quiet. Establishing permanent forests in watersheds is a reasonable solution to several problems - see attached pages.
Comment #: 14
Recreation should take a backseat to managing the forests for forest product
Comment #: 15
Except for education tours productive forests should NOT be used for recreation in ways that impact their growth.
Comment #: 16
Yes, all uses have there place. But we must be careful not to develop too much. Wilderness areas should be kept primitive. Motorized equipment should be kept out of many areas. If people have to make noise and stink they don't need to be there.
Comment #: 17
you can recreate and grow tree on the same land just get used to accept both.
Comment #: 18
protection of the perimeter is necessary to preserve the centers wild-ness
Comment #: 19
more user fees needed
Comment #: 20
This issue should be addressed. Lodging, resturants and retailstores should be minimized. Non-motorized recreation as biking and cc skiing, snowshoieing encouraged!
Comment #: 21
I think it is good for people to spend time outdoors and away from drugs and other trouble people can get into
Comment #: 22
Be sure to look at whether different uses are mutually exclusive and to what degree?
Comment #: 23
Restrict use of motorized vehicle on trails
Comment #: 24
We need more wildlife less people
Comment #: 25
People are paying the bills I guess they should get to use what they are paying for.
Comment #: 26
The retirees are probably not changing much in the foersts as a result of their reoccupatin. The worst is the "deman" by snowmobile and off road vehicles for more use/trails.
Comment #: 27
Non-Residents is also a major contributing factor!
Comment #: 28
No stores or restaurants. There should be ATV and snowmobile rideing!
Comment #: 29
More restrictions will be necessary.
Comment #: 30
Forests and the recreation they provide families are one of our state's strongest assets.
Comment #: 31
I agree more people will use the forest. We do not have reasonable access to the forest in many cases for the retired. This needs to be addressed (ex. ATV trails, snowmobile trails) I disagree with studies and monies to study service, they will develop in the private sector.
Comment #: 32
A significant percentage of forest users are out of state weekenders. By and large these are not retirees.
Comment #: 33
They should buy there own land and pay taxes like I do
Comment #: 34
Coord with state rec plan
Comment #: 35
Both B2 and B3 needs to become more restrictive - although this is unpopular.
Comment #: 36
Services, such as those listed, need not be located within state forests.
Comment #: 37
We need to establish more and larger areas "off-limit" to motorized vehicles of all sizes and types.
Comment #: 38
A plan needs to guide and direct and curtail some of these trends.
Comment #: 39
Agree - however, some areas should be set aside and off limits to recreation and development
Comment #: 40
snomobiles, trailbikes, and nonagr ATVs should pay a forestry tax
Comment #: 41
This trend should steer away from the use of mechanized activities
Comment #: 42
Recreation use needs to be controlled. Partiuclarly motorized recreation. Increased tourism and promotion, benefits select groups, and causes detriments for other groups.
Comment #: 43
This is not a forestry issue
Comment #: 44
Lets limit this stuff in terms of area and let the rest of the woods be managed as woods
Comment #: 45
One of the most important issues - all government owned forests should consider recreation as one of the primary issues
Comment #: 46
Forget the commercial stuff - that will happen without DNR help!
Comment #: 47
hunting be #1
Comment #: 48
There should be more trails made for ATV use.
Comment #: 49
So the "tree farmer" provides these amenities for the people listed above and pays high taxes because he owns this valuable property. When the crop is harvested the logger, hauler, and saw mill, paper company reap the profits. The small tree farmer does the work.
Comment #: 50
Example - liberal deer hunts - many more hunters looking for places to hunt.
Comment #: 51
Need public education on "good" uses (not harmful).
Comment #: 52
Available forest lands will never meet the current demands for recreation. The private landowner needs tax breaks and other incentives (free trees) to help offset this.
Comment #: 53
But the people that you let use your land are so careless and stupid and once you let them on they think they own it and can do anything they want, that's why my land is posted, I let them on by permit (written) only.
Comment #: 54
Keep in mind that if you ? the wilderness areas and roadless areas this will place more pressure on more accessible areas.
Comment #: 55
We need more access for people to do more quiet activities on forest land (I.e. skiing, hiking, biking) these activities provide a tremendous amount of toruist income.
Comment #: 56
Will this be true when Caucasians are no longer the dominant race in WI? That's changing fast -
Comment #: 57
Forests should only allowe services that are minimal. We don't want WI to become Yosemite.
Comment #: 58
This trend is a possible threat to traditional forest mgmt. We need to find a balance in Recreation vs. logging interests.
Comment #: 59
Let as many people enjoy the forests as is possible while protecting natural beauty, water quality, and rare, endangered, and threatened ecosystems and species.
Comment #: 60
I believe that many of the most ecologically important forestss are not appropriate for recreational use.
Comment #: 61
The private sector of this state can and should address the recreation needs.
Comment #: 62
Need more areas for hiking - quiet - by closing off roads and establishing more areas it, wilderness, natural that can offer unspoiled areas without dealing with noise and stench of destruction of ATV;'s and such!
Comment #: 63
I believe that most of the demand comes from areas that do not have forest land. URBAN
Comment #: 64
But what happens in 30 years?
Comment #: 65
Control and limitations must be used.
Comment #: 66
For state parks or state forests only.
Comment #: 67
The Forest Service could make more money on recreational trails and associated services if they provided these tourist amenities.
Comment #: 68
I don't think it's just retirees that are going to affect forests. I think the society trend is to be aware of nature and get out and enjoy it.
Comment #: 69
But don't forget these are other opportunities for recreation on federal land.
Comment #: 70
Much of this recreation is paid for by hunters' license fee. We need help from these other people.
Comment #: 71
Reduce 4-wheel damage to forest!
Comment #: 72
Regulate public lands, but let private family forests be private and offer informational programs for owners.
Comment #: 73
Let us not promote more commercialism in or near our forests.
Comment #: 74
Should not be a top priority.
Comment #: 75
This issue is one of the most significant on a priority basis of considerations!
Comment #: 76
We must be careful not to commercialize the public forests.
Comment #: 77
More limits should be placed on areas of the State for less human travel.
Comment #: 78
The way the price is going up for wooded acreage, the interest must be very high. There are 40-acre parcels going for $50,000 up here. Unreal!
Comment #: 79
Concentrate use and retain large little used landscapes.
Comment #: 80
Tax consequences on land because of recreational (hunting) demand should be looked at to control rapid increase in taxes.
Comment #: 81
Also, more ATV and snowmobile trails. Older people don't hike much. They like to ride in the forests though.
Comment #: 82
The best thing you can do with our forests is leave them alone. Let people adapt to the forest rather than change the forest so it adapts to the people.
Comment #: 83
Everyone's needs not just motorized consumptive. Need for silence, pristine, beauty.
Comment #: 84
For publicly held land but not for privately held land.
Comment #: 85
limit the development of support services in forested areas. No RV camplng.
Comment #: 86
Everyone knows someone who has some woodland to walk in if that is their pleasure
Comment #: 87
Thease are not what I think of as forest services. I would favor trail maintenance, publications, guides and information areas such as small centers.
Comment #: 88
Control access to recreation areas and set limits on associated services based on controls set.
Comment #: 89
Since the USFS is looking to reduce the acreage available for recreation - road closures more pressure will be on state forests.
Comment #: 90
Interuse should be stressed
Comment #: 91
We do not need to offer these services at the forest. Private sectors should make these decisions economically and locate on forest property.
Comment #: 92
We do not need to offer these services at theforest. Private sector should make these decisions economically and locate on forest property
Comment #: 93
There again, this should be a private sector concern.
Comment #: 94
We need population control - they don't make land anymore
Comment #: 95
Casinos and video games
Comment #: 96
There are too many snowmobile trails in forests!
Comment #: 97
This is good and will happen anyway so why should the forest plan address it?
Comment #: 98
With good management there should be room for all of us.
Comment #: 99
We need to STOP the development and urbanization of our forests. Forests will no longer be forests if we continue to develop and fragment the habitat.
Comment #: 100
Much recreational use results in abuse. I don't think we need to plan to assist rec use, but may in certain situations need to discourage rec use
Comment #: 101
Sno-no trails trump hiking trails
Comment #: 102
Controlled access is important most human beings don't have an appreciation for the consequenses of their actions.
Comment #: 103
See above. Let private sector meet this demand - not government.
Comment #: 104
Do not assess Forest Land as homesite land until it is sold for that.
Comment #: 105
We need to separate the noisy, loud (snowmobiles, trail bikes, four wheelers) from the quite (biking, bird watching) enjoy the quiteness of nature.
Comment #: 106
Logging and recreation should and can go hand in hand.
Comment #: 107
See Below
Comment #: 108
I think a greater effort can be made to help the smaller tract owners do a better job of managing their plots - sell it more
Comment #: 109
Growing percentage of Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa citizens.
Comment #: 110
This demand should be addressed on the landscape scale. There are other recreational opportunities on other ownerships. State owned property and recreational areas should be meshed with all other opportunities.
Comment #: 111
We need to encourage the creation of county forests in Southern WI
Comment #: 112
We need to encourage the creation of county forests in Southern WI
Comment #: 113
It's a sad day when you want to get out into the woods ... only to stay in a 5star hotel that is located where woods used to be
Comment #: 114
It's not just retirees that want these services. I think most people from urban areas look for and want these things nearby too. We want rustic and convience all in one.
Comment #: 115
This trend is definitely true, however management can not fluctuate dramatically with this type of trend. We must continue to manage for the resource and what it can provide/produce. Recreationists can and must adapt along with us.
Comment #: 116
Recreation is an important use of the forest, but NOT the most important one. Recreationalists need to understand that the forest is not just theirs, that forest management will go on as needed.
Comment #: 117
Forest based recreation is not inconsistent with other forest uses, however the development of lodging and retaurants and stores may NOT be consistent with keeping our forests intact. If people go to the woods, they should do so with that expectation, not requiring the development of adjacent lands for facilities NOT NECESSARY for those recreation activities.
Comment #: 118
Forest Recreation and it's relationship to the tourism industry should be adequately addressed here.
Comment #: 119
Our forests should be able to support resonably regulated multiple use including motorized recreation.
Comment #: 120
This is the opposite side of the coin from the previous issue, which again illustrates the need for balance. On private lands there needs to be some means of incentive for private forest owners to participate in providing these less direct benefits. Certainly the Managed Forest Law helps, but there may be a need for expanded incentives to encourage broadened recreational benefits.
Comment #: 121
This is a "double-edged" sword, because many people are opposed to any management in areas in which they like to recreate. This amplifies the problems addressed earlier in this survey by allowing the forest to change to more "late-succession" species, and be more prone to attack from insect and disease, windthrow, and wildfire. I believe this again will focus on a need for education to make the public accept forest management.
Comment #: 122
Combine this with issue B4.
Comment #: 123
Stop locking up state forests for recreation. Users can learn good forestry by oberving harvest and proper regen tevhniques.
Comment #: 124
Stop locking up state forests for recreation. Users can learn good forestry by oberving harvest and proper regen tevhniques.
Comment #: 125
I'm not sure where "lodging, restaurants, and retail stores" fits in with managing state forests.
Comment #: 126
Sure, these recreationalist are using trails built by loggers and they complain or want to stop logging because they want to see nature. These unemployeed loggers are the same people that supplied the resources to build those lodges, resturants, trails and retail stores they visit. I think most buildings should have a list of how much forest supplies are used and post it for thier customers viewing .
Comment #: 127
User conflicts will escalate, especially with the increase in ATV uses. We need to take a more proactive role in limiting the use of ATV's on our public lands.
Comment #: 128
Don't forget silent sports!!! Some people like to enjoy the forest without the sound of snowmobiles and ATVs.
Comment #: 129
We need to watch and evaluate where we develop tourist areas and the effect on those areas. We need to preserve the forest not ruin it with people trying to enjoy it. A fine line between recreation and preservation I guess. I feel like the North Woods are turning into resort towns with land being bought up as fast as it can be put up for sale. That is going to ruin our north woods.
Comment #: 130
In particular ATV use has grown dramatically in the past few years and will likely to continue. Lots of differnt social and biological impacts are going to occur as the growth continues.
Comment #: 131
In particular ATV use has grown dramatically in the past few years and will likely to continue. Lots of differnt social and biological impacts are going to occur as the growth continues.
Comment #: 132
keep motorised vehicles to an absolute minimum and discourage developement of amenities
Comment #: 133
The last thing we need in northern Wisconsin is more development of lodging, restaurants and retail stores! True forest recreation should be reserved for silent sports, x-country skiing, hiking, hunting, fishing, snow-shoeing, etc. ATV's and snowmobiles have a detrimental impact on our forests.
Comment #: 134
It should not be assumed that these activites are detrimental to the resource. Often associated tourist delopment is extremely detrimental to natural resources. It is ironic that we often rush to encourage things that will in the end cause us to love them to death.
Comment #: 135
Unless you are for economic growth in a depressed area, it is not your problem or maybe you have jobs for everyone living here
Comment #: 136
Need to balance the needs of plants/wildlife with the recreational desires of citizens.
Comment #: 137
Access is important to citizens, but let us not love the forests to death.
Comment #: 138
In order to enhance public interest in forest practices along with support, we need to show the public what it provides for them. Recreation along with education may help to show the public what effects their demand is having on the resource, encouraging them to be a bit more conservative. However, over-use must be addressed in order to preserve what we have now.
Comment #: 139
In order to enhance public interest in forest practices along with support, we need to show the public what it provides for them. Recreation along with education may help to show the public what effects their demand is having on the resource, encouraging them to be a bit more conservative. However, over-use must be addressed in order to preserve what we have now.
Comment #: 140
private enterprize will handle the demand for this type of service.
Comment #: 141
MANY PEOPLE WANT A PIECE OF THE FOREST PIE AND THE TREND OF MANY IN THE SILENT SPORTS COMMUNITY IS TO BAND TOGETHER WITH THE ECO-EXTREMISTS AND TRY TO CONTROL PLANNING OUTCOMES THROUGH SCIENTIFIC DATA SKEWING AND AND MANIPULATING PUBLIC INPUT TO SUPPORT THEIR GOALS.
Comment #: 142
Lets just make strip malls out of the forests. Then we wouldn't have to worry about this stuff.
Comment #: 143
Wisconsin's forests can be used for recreation without becoming theme parks with lodging, restaurants and retail stores. If you need that stuff, there are lots of cities in Wisconsin that could use the business.
Comment #: 144
It is good to get people out into nature so they can get to enjoy it, love it and respect it. Then they will want to make sure it is maintained for future generations.
Comment #: 145
Demographics are always the prime determinate of resource allocation.
Comment #: 146
This relates back to helping the local economies out.
Comment #: 147
Be careful not to ruin the reason why we visit the forests in the first place. Don't let them become urban centers or tourist traps everywhere.
Comment #: 148
See B-4
Comment #: 149
Limit engine-operated recreation in forests (snowmobile, ATV, etc.)
Comment #: 150
I do not belive we have a good handle on true recreational value of our forests not to mention that our forests impact the recreational and ecological status or value of our lakes.. GREAT NEED HERE in determining economic priorities and the establishment of strong education programs to follow up on implementation of plans.
Comment #: 151
In many cases, I feel that recreation and industrial timber management can be managed for together.
Comment #: 152
We need less of the "lodging, restaurants, and retail stores", lets focus on the ones we have and how we can help the ones in need to boost the small local people and economies.
Comment #: 153
As the economy shifts to the forest it will be imperative to educate the business owners as well as the public about the value in the forest that their business depends on. I was traveling in the state of Washington this year and was impressed with the signs put up by the loggers about when the forest was last cut and thinnned and when the next cut was scheduled. Its was helpful to educate the tourists that the cleared areas were not zones of destruction but just part of the natural succession of using the forest and its products. Wisconsin would be wise to do the same thing to educate those using the forest about the economic value of the forest. Thinned areas can be beautiful as well as more productive when replanted soon after harvesting.
Comment #: 154
I support more rugged recreation, like camping and cooking over a fire in a dutch oven. I don't think we should support Minocqua and Eagle River style recreation where we stay in a hotel, eat at restaurants, and pay a guide to take us fishing. I don't like the ethics in that. To me, it is getting more into a social problem here, and I can't say much in that realm.
Comment #: 155
I agree with the first part, but not necessarly the stated result. I am not convinced we need "more" restaurants and retail stores.
Comment #: 156
This is important for managers to understand, but is not a management issue
Comment #: 157
I bleieve there is enough accomodations as of now to suit the people and it should not be considered for at least a few more years. Most of the people that come to or live in Wisconsin have places to stay or live here.
Comment #: 158
This has to be addressed and accomodated!
Having said, it is time to take a good
hard look at what that recreation is!
The ever-increasing use by personal motorized
vehicles (ATVs, snowmobiles) with the inherent
noise and air pollution, accidents involving both
riders and pedestrians, is a problem that
will only become worse if some ENFORCEABLE
regulations are not put in place now!
Comment #: 159
There is an obvious link between healthy forests and healthy tourism in forested communities. However, this trend is not fully recognized in terms of local politics. Many county boards still are dominated by forest product industry thinking but give short shrift to negative impacts on tourism. This will change as tourism businesses become better organized and more outspoken.
Comment #: 160
There is an obvious link between healthy forests and healthy tourism in forested communities. However, this trend is not fully recognized in terms of local politics. Many county boards still are dominated by forest product industry thinking but give short shrift to negative impacts on tourism. This will change as tourism businesses become better organized and more outspoken.
Comment #: 161
We need to also find a way to balance preservation and use.
Comment #: 162
More interest in the forest recreation is needed, but
it must also include increased respect for preservation.
Comment #: 163
Lodging, eating, stores can be left to private sector and the competition that it brings should keep the price in line; build informational types of things, learning types of things, forest demonstration types of areas, all those things that private industry will not provide.
Comment #: 164
Lodging, eating, stores can be left to private sector and the competition that it brings should keep the price in line; build informational types of things, learning types of things, forest demonstration types of areas, all those things that private industry will not provide.
Comment #: 165
Lodging, eating, stores can be left to private sector and the competition that it brings should keep the price in line; build informational types of things, learning types of things, forest demonstration types of areas, all those things that private industry will not provide.
Comment #: 166
Forest recreation is especially important around the shorelines of our lakes.
Comment #: 167
The destruction of forests by recreational vehicles is definately on the rise. It comes with the lose of respect for the natural communities as a part of an uninformed/uneducated urban mentality/social trends. Could the use of early successional forests satisfy more of the demand for recreational activity such as camping and motorized sports? Don't see a real association between retail stores and forest recreation. It seems like an "if you build it, they will come" issue. Noted are the lack of restaurants and lodging near the southern and northern units of the Kettle Morraine. I accept this and pack a snack. There is a time to say NO to demands.
Comment #: 168
Work on meeting recreation demand on the same acres that are providing forest products.
Comment #: 169
The nexus between tourism and forests is critical. Sometimes protecting the forest helps a local community more economically than logging it, especially if the logs are exported for any distant value added processing.
Comment #: 170
We must be careful that recreation does not harm the forest ecosystem.
Comment #: 171
Leave the trees alone, we have enough restaraunts, and lodging.
Comment #: 172
More producta are needed and we need to do somthing about it not just cut down more lumber.
Comment #: 173
More producta are needed and we need to do somthing about it not just cut down more lumber.
Comment #: 174
Let the people use the forests all they want, but I think that it is it silly that they should have the lodging and stores and stuff in the forests too. That's what towns are for. What ever happened to good 'ol camping out???
Comment #: 175
This is particularily important in the southeastern part of the State. Here we have about 40% of the State's population on about 5% of the land! So we need more forest and related open space lands for recreational-passive to active-uses.
Comment #: 176
We need to limit human impact, especially the devistation caused by ATVs. We need a plan to give ATVs and future rec vehicles a space without disturbing the forests.
Comment #: 177
We need to limit human impact, especially the devistation caused by ATVs.
Comment #: 178
However, we should be educating the public on appropriate forest uses which do NOT include lodging, restaurants, or retail stores. These are things the private sector can provide outside or surrounding the forest. These areas are forests and should be treated as such, they are not urban forests.
Comment #: 179
It's obvious that recreation on the state forests is booming and needs careful planning & analysis.
Conflicts between harvests and recreational values &
use should also be addressed.
Comment #: 180
I think it is good that forests can be used for recreation purposes as long as we limit the area we take over.
Comment #: 181
#10
Comment #: 182
More staff to better control what uses there are. Each forest doesn't have to offer all forms of recreation for the people of WI. Though some think so!
Comment #: 183
This is a good trend. It can provide political support for more forest, better forest, etc. Services should be controlled so that stores and restaurants don't create sprawl or encroach on lakeshores. If they're limited, maybe they will be perceived as higher value.
Comment #: 184
Let the visitors use out of forest facilities for lodging, restaurants and retail stores. They don't belong in our forests. If they want lodging, their tents will do.
Comment #: 185
Just as people demand forest products, they also demand forest services. These items are likely to become more important as our population ages.
Comment #: 186
We need more dirt bike and snowmobile trails
Comment #: 187
We need more dirt bike and snowmobile trails
Comment #: 188
All types of recreation must be allowed, motorized and non-motorized.
Comment #: 189
We have more than enough retail stores now - increase recretation does increase services but a little plan ahead could be of value to all.
Comment #: 190
This is public land and everyone should have the privalidge of use of the forests without undo damage.
Last Revised: Monday July 30 2007
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