Division of Forestry Strategic Direction
Statewide Forest Strategy 2010
Statewide Forest Assessment 2010
Forest Sustainability Framework
Statewide Forest Plan 2004
A7. Trend: The list of threatened and endangered species is growing.
Comment #: 1
This is a natural thing we should not worry about vanishing species due to changed environment.
Comment #: 2
The profilation of the predatory racoon is responsible to a large extent.
Comment #: 3
I hope we never have a spotted owl issue in WIS. I think "human beings" should be considered in the endangered and threatened equasion.
Comment #: 4
Sometimes it's just survival of the fittest.
Comment #: 5
How many of these threatened, or endangered forest species are enhanced by clear-cutting forestland?
Comment #: 6
And our increasing knowledge about the effect of many forest management plans upon the species.
Comment #: 7
We want occasionally to see some of these endangered species. I have seen 1 bobcat in the 77 years I have come to the North Woods (Vilas County), only 2 wolves, although the wolves were often heard in the 1920's and 1930's. I have lived year - round in deep woods for 6.5 years now and have seen bears only 4 times. But foolish newcomers feed sunflower seeds to birds on their open porches and 1 new neighbor had bears on his porch 3 times in his first 6 months living here. After that, the last 2 of my sightings wer at my feeders in my tiny prairie (area of septicdrain). I like to spot bears from car windows, as I slowly drive to town for mail! I'd like to see a lynx, I saw 1 in Alaska, in 1982.
Comment #: 8
The growth comes from more people looking for species which may be of low numbers but does not necessarily mean they are endangered
Comment #: 9
Outside of eagles, wolves, osprey, etc most people don't relate to exotic plants and animals
Comment #: 10
I consider this a very serious issue and one that should be addressed as a top priority
Comment #: 11
Not everything can be saved, to disrupt every other activity to manipulate the environment to try and save on species doesn't make sense. In the past many species probably went extinct with little notice.
Comment #: 12
These is too much human interference and fragmentation of land areas causing this species decline.
Comment #: 13
Depends on how it would be addressed in a forest plan
Comment #: 14
Lost of habitat.
Comment #: 15
this is a FOREST plan, ie: trees!
Comment #: 16
Not understood? What are plans to educate public regarding there species.
Comment #: 17
Let endangered resources fund and moniter this.
Comment #: 18
This population pressure - period!
Comment #: 19
I feel this is nature following its own path
Comment #: 20
10,000 years ago species were also threatened but nobody was around to list them - and we've gotten along fine with out all this hoopala!
Comment #: 21
As we become increasingly aware of our inter-action and interdependence on each species our understanding of and appreciation for our biodiversity must only intensify!
Comment #: 22
The first part of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts!
Comment #: 23
Maybe considered but not "addressed"!
Comment #: 24
you should consder the natural evolution also nature and life forms are constantly changing
Comment #: 25
Fedearrly mandated!
Comment #: 26
what else?
Comment #: 27
Actually often the increase is due to increase in misleading, (?) info. Closer, more thorough (?) new finds spp not so restricted.
Comment #: 28
Very important to reduce the # of T & E species in Wisconsin
Comment #: 29
So how many of these the species are at the limit or their range and we are making a mountain out of a mole hill?
Comment #: 30
Also, the fact there are more people looking for the species!
Comment #: 31
Isn't this part of natural succession and human impact?
Comment #: 32
Need more research and educating the public.
Comment #: 33
Do not tie up large areas to management because of a plant, being endangered. We can learn as we go are they (1) truly endangered or rare because of landscape changes. IE. Fire cycles, etc.
Comment #: 34
This is true but even more important is the fact that we are loosing species fast and we need to take decisive steps to slow this trend, as soon as possible.
Comment #: 35
Highlight the reason for the issue, otherwise a negative impression is created.
Comment #: 36
This isn't forestry's problem, aur problem is to provide the needed fiber for too many people.
Comment #: 37
I assume that this would relate to threatened and endangered species vs. forest development, harvest, change, etc.
Comment #: 38
Leave to specialists, but keep informed
Comment #: 39
What else don't we know?! All mgmt should be guided by the precautionary principle.
Comment #: 40
But I don't know what difference it makes to mankind except more government regulation.
Comment #: 41
I would like to know about these because if they are in my area I can adjust my management accordingly.
Comment #: 42
What happened to the leopard frog? You could find them anywhere in the early 70's
Comment #: 43
Try to get to people to show them how to help and what they should do to help these species.
Comment #: 44
Polution, disease and declining water tables are out of control, so what are you going to do about it?
Comment #: 45
Extremely important - this issue is directly related to maintaining biodiversity
Comment #: 46
How many new species are found or reconized? Is this results of life cycles or a growing forest as of results of forest practices in the late 1800 - the early 1900's?
Comment #: 47
I question the "touchy feely" people who would favor turning all of US back to the Indians. Matter of fact, I oppose them.
Comment #: 48
Focus on foreestry not endangered species
Comment #: 49
No problem - as long as forst management remains the primary use. We've got to get over the stupid idea that all species must survive at all cost.
Comment #: 50
Agree (that there are currently 33 threatened and 34 endangered forest species . . . ) but disagree (that the increase in listed species is largely due to our increasing knowledge about a wider variety of species and their habitat needs).
Comment #: 51
As long as the last sentence (underlined) is made clear. Also, need to clarify the fact that every ecosystem has rare species; invariably a larger number of rare species than common ones. Human activity is not the cause of every rare species lack of abundance. It is not possible or even desirable for humans to ensure that every species become common.
Comment #: 52
How do you know that maybe the rate ES listing hasn't actually slowed down come pared to pre-white settlement?
Comment #: 53
I am not certain that all of them should be listed.
Comment #: 54
There are limits to these considerations as some species will never remain no matter how much protection they receive. Also because of our expanding human population some species should not be reintroduced such as the rattlesnakes at Neeceeda Wildife refuge.
Comment #: 55
We need to reverse this trend.
Comment #: 56
I hope when and if more T&E species are identified that the reason for their poor status is not blamed on bad forestry practices.
Comment #: 57
We should look to maintain the health of ecosystems, not necessarily specific species.
Comment #: 58
The WI list is much less meaningful then the federal ist - being rare in WI may result because of political boundaries, not ecological ones. T & E should receive good faith efforts at restoration - but not heroic ones -
Comment #: 59
With population growth comes development and loss of habitat and biodiversity. Again, preserve it now before endangered species becomes the norm.
Comment #: 60
Many of these species are indicators of overall ecosystem health, and as such it is important to preserve and study them.
Comment #: 61
Put highest priority on protecting and enhancing native rare and endangered species and their habitats.
Comment #: 62
If private property is to be a part of the state wide forest plan, then threatened and endangered species should never be a part of the forest plan. This should be addressed on public property only.
Comment #: 63
Bat ? Spotted owl results
Comment #: 64
The endangered and threatened list is most affected by urban sprawl and even agriculture. Don't get hung up in a plan about things that forestry have minor responsibility for.
Comment #: 65
I think this issue needs to include the stress of housing in forested areas as one of causes.
Comment #: 66
Regeneration should be chosen for the species that look most dominant in the area.
Comment #: 67
But many species show up on these lists because there is no data on the population. In fact (Goblin Fern, for example) the species may be abundant.
Comment #: 68
Much of this is to be expected in the normal course of evolution and the survival of the fittest. Nothing or no one species can go on forever - except maybe cockroaches.
Comment #: 69
Protect these species if economically practical.
Comment #: 70
Biodiversity issue?
Comment #: 71
These species may never return because of habitat changes. A waste of time and money to save a handful of doomed species - concentrate on what species thrive best or adapt.
Comment #: 72
Articulated well.
Comment #: 73
Deer are not an endangered species in Wisconsin. Deer over-population and deer browse are a major problem in my forest.
Comment #: 74
There is a tendency to go overboard on these issues. I have great concern for private property rights and these issues seem to deprive us of these rights.
Comment #: 75
We don't have to go out of our way to protect anything life will go on without some of them.
Comment #: 76
Determine need - if any - to support balance - that would support all these species.
Comment #: 77
Were these pecies every very widely dispersed or were they ever found in high numbers?
Comment #: 78
We still aren't knowledgeable about interactions. Don't make large mistakes by implementing policies we don't understand yet. (Mountain Lions, Wolves NONE Rattlesnakes should be llimited due to public land use
Comment #: 79
We should stop listing species - we are doing more harm than good. I fail to see how the answer to A7 are pertinent.
Comment #: 80
Very much. We have to address this so future generations can appreciate all the plants and animals.
Comment #: 81
"33 threatened and 34 endanged Forest" - How do I know how to evaluate?
Comment #: 82
The way that threatened and endangered species were handled in other parts of our nation hwere huge tracts of land shut down and communities devastated makes no sense to me.
Comment #: 83
The Eastern Hemlock and Northern White Cedar included (They definitely should be!)
Comment #: 84
Is the loss of such invertebrates and plants, going to be catastrophic loss to our lives or the longivity of the forest itself?
Comment #: 85
Do we get bogged down in a plan for this type of issue?
Comment #: 86
What is the current number of species in Wisconsin?
Comment #: 87
Many of these endangered species have never been found in large numbers. The way timber is managed usually has little affect on these specieis
Comment #: 88
It may not be possible or even necessary to preserve all endangered species but an effort to save as many as practical should be continued.
Comment #: 89
Give tax breaks for those who grow and/or plant endangered species.
Comment #: 90
The purple martin used to be a popular bud in our area as much ten years ago. But at the present time they are extinct in our area.
Comment #: 91
I think we need to continue to research what effects we have on our environment for its and our own good.
Comment #: 92
The biggest challenge!
Comment #: 93
Who makes these assessments? Who knows what was threatened in the last 1 million years?
Comment #: 94
But with this knowledge we can better reverse the process.
Comment #: 95
Agree somewhat - common sense needs to prevail with regard to threatened/endangered species.
Comment #: 96
The # listed is up because species keep being added not because there is any evidence that most were abundant once and aren't now. The trend applies to the list only and does not indicate any pattern of actual increasing rareness. Just the opposite in time for many species such as the grey wolf and bald eagle.
Comment #: 97
I feel there is too much disagreement on individual species Ids or designation to get too wrapped up in calling for instance, 1 discrete population of golden rod, a separate species and engdangered, because the pistils are 0.001mm shorter than others of a similar related species. Get A Life.
Comment #: 98
Plants and animals became extinct on their own by human intervention this is still important but we need to also use common sense.
Comment #: 99
This trend should be addressed but it is important to note that the growth is not just the result of timber management. It is also important to note that species extinction is a natural process. The main thing to remember is that fores "use" should have higher value than individual species.
Comment #: 100
Exterpation and speciation are natural processes. To what extento do we tolerate or modify these events?
Comment #: 101
1) What are these? 2) Some can be forgotten about. They are bad-poison ivy?
Comment #: 102
Because it probably would result in further land use restrictions.
Comment #: 103
It is exceedingly important that we base any decisions on scientific results on the effects of things like timber harvest. To shut down timber harvest without knowing whether the harvest is actually injurious is a serious mistake such as the Spotted Owl example. I would want the burden of proof to be on the ER side rather than on forest management's side.
Comment #: 104
Wisconsin may be on the "edge" of some species home range. If Wisconsin lost some of these "edge species" but the total population was not effected, I don't believe that would be a bad thing.
Comment #: 105
I think there are just more people out there looking for these things. The DNR should get more field botanists and biologis out there to confirm these finds.
Comment #: 106
I think we're also finally realizing that even the 'smaller' species need help, and since they're at the base of the food chain oftentimes they are an important part of the ecosysytem, we're not just protecting the big 'cool' critters anymore
Comment #: 107
The last statement is very misleading. While true for certain species, it is not true for others. Many species are, as a result of surveys, more abundant than previously thought. "T&E" lists are growing everywhere - due primarily to habitat loss, fragmentation, degradation and the increasing presence of exotic species. As we exert more pressure on our natural resources, the number of species added to "red" lists will continue to grow.
Comment #: 108
I don't think we truely know about what the habitat needs are or what the "true" populations of species were. Maybe some things are listed that don't need to be because their numbers are "normal/naturally low" for that particular species.
Comment #: 109
Many so-called threatened or endangered species are "found" and I tend to believe that they are not as threatened or endangered as we are led to believe.
Comment #: 110
The harder you look the more you'll find. I would hardly call this a trend. Rather it's a symptom of ER having more time and $ to worry about the small critters, most of which we don't understnad well enough to classify.
Comment #: 111
But don't blow it out of proportion. Certainly some species have a need, but there are several that just don't seem to belong in a protected status. These listings often stifle forest management work, but again there are examples where the forest management work helps the species.
Comment #: 112
What was the 1985 assessment? This is not clear - at first I thought you meant the listing assessment (the state endangered species list was most recently update in 1997), but then I realized you might be referring to a forest assessment.
Another taxa of major interest is the birds, especially because of the scale (two continents) that some require. Endangered resources are just one of the many diversity issues that need to be addressed in the plan.
Comment #: 113
Let's start thinking about something other than the white-tailed deer
Comment #: 114
It is not only due to our increasing knowledge, but is also due in some part to un-redirected management, continued deficencies in integreation between resource management functions (both within the DNR and externally), and continued economic pressures. A perfect plan would further enhance cooperation within DNR, with other agencies and with private forest owners. In this last area incentives will need to be developed to better assure habitat protection.
Comment #: 115
It is growing at an alarming rate. Somehow we need to find those species that warrant special attention and recognize that not everything on this plant can be saved forever.
Comment #: 116
Are we really committed to saving these species at the expense of less going to the mill?
Comment #: 117
Reports should be created when foresters, wildlife managers, and other natural resources staff find threatened and endangered species in woodlands. This will help to indentify the exact range and habitat conditions of the species. It will also help endangered resources staff develop management guidelines.
Comment #: 118
This effort must be undertaken with the goal of linking structure issues with functional concerns.
Comment #: 119
I'd like to see our NHI cleaned up so it has current information. Lets clean up LOB 1902, Lynx track LOB 1972. What happened Best available information and to current info?
Comment #: 120
We all know that endangered species tend to be indications of larger systemic problems, problems that management and planning can help address.
Comment #: 121
Just because a species gets "listed" doesn't mean it's time to be concerned. Many species show alarming trends that aren't listed eg. grassland birds
Comment #: 122
Endangered species trends are also the result of the tremendous growth and development pressures that the State (particularly the northern more rural areas)is/are undergoing.
Comment #: 123
More general biologists should be hired by the DNR to manage DNR lands and to provide technical advice to landowners. This ensures that forests are managed as much for the ecological value as for there economic value.
Comment #: 124
survival of the fittest-it's natures way
Comment #: 125
This information should guide the planning process.
Comment #: 126
If we have a better understanding of the effects that we, as a society, have had on the flora and fauna - including the less complex organisms - of this state, we will be better able to identify problems and manage our resources.
Comment #: 127
this ties in with the whole monoculture idea i would think
Comment #: 128
Introducing myself as a future forester, people look to me as a "tree chopper" and immediately look down on me. When getting into furthur detail with the person, the issue almost always boils down to what they've heard about the deterioation of the rainforests and the assortment of specie we are losing in the process. If we were to portray to the public that we do take into consideration issues such as endangered species, and we displayed how we go about altering management practices in order to preserve and enhance those species, the public may back forest management practices rather than consider them all negative.
Comment #: 129
Introducing myself as a future forester, people look to me as a "tree chopper" and immediately look down on me. When getting into furthur detail with the person, the issue almost always boils down to what they've heard about the deterioation of the rainforests and the assortment of specie we are losing in the process. If we were to portray to the public that we do take into consideration issues such as endangered species, and we displayed how we go about altering management practices in order to preserve and enhance those species, the public may back forest management practices rather than consider them all negative.
Comment #: 130
I sense our continued dependence on convenience and technology has increased our use of chemicals to "improve" our world. The production and use of these "improvements" definitely tips the ecosystem balance away from sensitive species. I fear we also will become a sensitive species one day.
Comment #: 131
As stated before, biodiversity needs to remain a priority in order to preserve our unique forest resources. if profit and lumber are the priority, then we will not have biodiversity and the list of threatened and endangered species will get bigger. you can't have your cake and eat it too!
Comment #: 132
We need to protect what we have, but also keep in mind that some extinctions are a natural process, its just the alarming rate which species are being lost which scares most people.
Comment #: 133
We should look at how forest management actions could positively affect some endangered/threatened species as well as how it negatively affects them.
I've recently run into literature describing how forest management actions negatively affects the populations of spring ephemerals. Through their statements, data, and conclusions, it was clear that their reports were biased against forest management actions.
Comment #: 134
If we, as students and professionals from UWSP along with other professionals, are allowed to do more studies we may be able to find ways to slow down the growth. We can't slow it down if we don't know why they are going endangered.
Comment #: 135
Only if the current management practices are the causes of the species becoming threatened or endangered is it important to address. If the species are on the lists for reasons other than loss or changes in habitat, nature should be allowed to take it's course.
Comment #: 136
Only if the current management practices are the causes of the species becoming threatened or endangered is it important to address. If the species are on the lists for reasons other than loss or changes in habitat, nature should be allowed to take it's course.
Comment #: 137
I agree, not because it is a big deal, but something that has to be dealt with in the long run. Many of these organisms are narrow endemics and can be handled nicely; some already have recovery plans and require no more or very little work; and some can be dealt with in habitat management/protection/restoration. Wisconsin has many edge of the range species, so it is expected we would have many things in small numbers just because of our location at the edge of the boreal forest/great plains/central hardwood forest/eastern forests as well as the northwestern corner of the range of northern hardwoods.
Comment #: 138
This should be addressed within the context of the larger concept of Biodiversity.
Comment #: 139
I don't think we want to loss any species.
Comment #: 140
Don't manage for a single species necisarally, by manageing for an umbrella species we a destined to manage for more than one species and that is what is needed.
Comment #: 141
I think we continue to issue perits too liberally to develop on sensitive sites. We ought to consider tightening our regulations on where things can be put in (i. e. schools and airport runways in Superior, the Arrowhead-Weston powerline, Perrier water exploration, etc.).
Comment #: 142
This will probably continue anyway. The closer we look the more we find.
Comment #: 143
A lot of this problem may be attributed to the loss of habitat due to the decline in early to mid-succesional species because of the lack of management for these timber types.
Comment #: 144
However, allocating limited resources
for a few species that will only be saved
in small numbers to the exclusion of
many individuals of other species is not
necessarily a good trade off. Choose
wisely here!
Comment #: 145
It should be an obvious high priority to fulfill the clear legal and moral duty to prevent the extinction of any endangered species, and to use best efforts to recover all such listed species.
Comment #: 146
It should be an obvious high priority to fulfill the clear legal and moral duty to prevent the extinction of any endangered species, and to use best efforts to recover all such listed species.
Comment #: 147
I hope that we will take an ecosystem management rather than species management approach.
Comment #: 148
Be sure to include the inter-connected relationship between the wildlife and the forest content.
Comment #: 149
This trend will certainly have a significan impact on the Federal, State and County owned Forestland in the state. The private sector will probably be impacted to some degree.
Comment #: 150
Comments on question number 7 seem to cover this question as well with regard to laws, enforcement and protection. We do not live in a society that can easily understand the significance of a rare plant.
Comment #: 151
Other agencies.
Comment #: 152
Despite forest recovery after the cut-over, some forest species are still rare, endangered, or declining. And not just plants and inverts. Other types of species are at risk too. Some because of habitat fragmentation, especially those that are interior sensitive. Others because of the absence of most genuine old-growth stands of any meaningful acreage. And of course still others because of the huge loss of barrens and savannahs. All of these issues must be actively addressed. Extinction is indeed forever.
Comment #: 153
We must continue to add new endangered species and at the same time, work to protect those species on the endangered or threatened lists.
Comment #: 154
we need to keep protceting these animals so the # keep rising
Comment #: 155
we should regulate the laws on how to protect the endangered species
Comment #: 156
These animals are a threat to us because of their vilentence.
Comment #: 157
Make this known, do something about it!!!
Comment #: 158
This has been an issue for a very long time and it hasn't gotten any better.
Comment #: 159
I feel that species of all kinds should have a home at all times 33 threatened and 34 endangered is way to many animals. I think that those animals should receive special attention and help to make sure that they do not become exstinct.
Comment #: 160
This affects the forest on all levels, because as the variety of animals shrinks, so does the variety of life in the forest, which is harmful.
Comment #: 161
This, in my view,anlog with exotic species, is the major issue with most forms of forest management.
Comment #: 162
Another very important reason is the loss of suitable habitat.
Comment #: 163
All forests must contain homeostasis to survive and thrive. for homeostasis to be reached you must have biodiversity and with the list of species that are in danger growing the length of time that the forest have to survive is becoming shorter
Comment #: 164
State forests and Natural Areas play a key role
in conservation - this should be a priority
for the planning process.
Comment #: 165
I think we should develop a plan that
allows us to help these species of
trees make a comeback.
Comment #: 166
We need to work to keep all of the species alive. We need all of them to keep our forests healthy. We need to help to keep them alive.
Comment #: 167
We need to work to keep all of the species alive. We need all of them to keep our forests healthy. We need to help to keep them alive.
Comment #: 168
We need better protection for these species.
Comment #: 169
protect them
Comment #: 170
This issue should be studied, and then recommendations made on a state level that local governments can incorporate into their forestry plans on a voluntary basis.
Comment #: 171
Eliminate harvests in areas where endangered species are sighted (define size of area based on land area required for sighted species). Allow property owners where endangered species have been sighted to remain in the tax law programs so that this land is not subdivided for development.
Comment #: 172
Endangered and threatened species should receive high priority in forest planning.
Comment #: 173
Loss of even a single species has unknown and unmeasurable effects on the forest system. All conceivable steps must be taken to prevent further species losses.
Comment #: 174
Instead of throwing our money away on these plans use for snowmobile trails and roads
Comment #: 175
Instead of throwing our money away on these plans use for snowmobile trails and roads
Comment #: 176
Natural selection will continue to allow for some species to thrive, while others wane. This should be understood, but not necessarily managed heavily.
Comment #: 177
Even with mans help things will still disappear,through bio-diversity may be we will have a better view of how the forest ages.
Last Revised: Monday July 30 2007
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